Spoken like someone who doesnt live in a 2A benighted state or area. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. If a customer takes possession of the firearm, Intrepid considers this acceptance of the condition, and will not offer a return. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. All your beautiful $2,000 semi-auto rifles will be illegal, while excellent, used $500 Marlins will disappear from the market. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. NEVER see one at any reasonable price at any LGS. I own a Marlin .357 and its a beaut. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Who needs a semi auto rifle. Get your barrels customized early for next season! And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post AS ALWAYS, START ABOUT 10% LOW AND WORK UP! This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. A . The .357 Maximum went away. It's important to note that when using cast bullets, you will need to use gas checks since the velocities reached with .357 Remington Maximum may cause problems. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) We discuss most anything here politely. Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. I admit that these articles about .357s have me thinking What the hell? 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:25 pm, Post Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. I agree, a lever gun in the .357 Max would be quite the setup. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. Show Only Non-Guns. Nice single shot rifle. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Best to have at least one, in your favorite caliber, in the collection. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. $2.92. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. No more squirrel. I agree with Dave. It could even work for breech-seating. I sold both rather quickly. Max. 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. The Henry Big Boy Steel is a great option, too. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. So without further adiou "Welcome". You are using an out of date browser. The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". In bolt action or semi auto, I would choose the 350. I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. It really boils down to max distance, drop, and how much the bullets . Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. ALL factory handgun ammo is impossible to obtain now in the Covid 19 and Defund the Police world we live in now. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. . Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. I kept still hoping that they couldnt climb a tree. That it would also make a good field cartridge for hunting small and medium game is obvious. Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. $150 if you take the simple route leaving the Henry forend on, (This for the extra handling and care packaging to protect the wood finish.). Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Paper patch an almost pure lead 380 to 400 gr bullet and it will do a number on an critter waaaaay out there even propelled with black powder but you have to know where your rifle shoots at what yardage. Hot and spiced with nutmeg and cinnamon on a cold day kicks ass, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/56/4e/97564e38ab918eae2103ffa40b24f0c1.jpg. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. Not going to get activated by accident, and potentially useful now and then. Thompson Center Contender Stainless Steel MGM 357 Maximum 12 Barrel (1:14). Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. Go to GB or GI and find yourself a Browning B-92 in .357. Second, they take ordinary .357 ammo and produce ballistics youd hardly believe. But alas. Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. Tho i reload all my center fire calibers. New cartridge and rifle. Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. Guns Rifles Harrington Richardson Rifles HARRINGTON RICHARDSON . . Don't like it you can turn it quick and easy. T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. Even my Walmart has 30-30 ammo now. Now its the way it should have been from the factory. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. Im just fed up with the fact I spent over $1000 in gun and ammo to not be able to use it AND when it comes back from the shop it is dirty, not fixed, and has some cosmetic issues that werent there when I shipped it. Build a Ruger#1. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. .38-40. OM56, cant disagree. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Bingo. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Its pleasant to shoot even with .357 mag. There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. The receiver was warped slightly outward, he pressed it back into line. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. The .357 and .45 Colt are best at bowhunting distances inside 50 yards. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. Common sense Gun Safety . Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Geoff: Nope, not yet. Lever action rifles are fun. The old tooling is long gone now. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. #17. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. *We Never share your email without your permission. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. Blame it on the Covid 19 pandemic. 008-E503841 | MTM. Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. Sorry, there are no results in your area. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. But the most painful thing is buying ammo for it. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Show Only with Pictures Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job. by 44shooter Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:34 pm, Post My lever lust may remain unquenched. Expecting it back today via UPS, cant wait to put some rounds in it this week. If you don't there are some good old black powder era straight wall cases that you could utilize to make a real deer hunting longer range rifle. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. Thats what makes them lever action great. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/henry-big-boy-steel-357-magnum-38-special-lever-action-rifle. Although a crimp is not required for a single-shot firearm, I crimp anyway. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). Browning created the 1892 to compete with the Marlin 1888, and according to legend, completed the work in two weeks. But they do fit nicely behind a seat. by elmo123 Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:11 pm, Post A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. Probably because the articles title was the 5 best RIFLES, not handguns. Because the title of the article is Five great not Five cheap.. I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. It shouts very well that way. Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. Back in the day. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am, Post Trying to understand why the only conclusion I can draw is that people think them as old-fashioned and slow. Id like to, but my current living situation and potential job changes/living situations dont allow for me to set up an area for reloading. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Order your barrel directly from Match Grade Machine, made however you want with their standard chamber or for $125 additional post paid to you, custom chambered by me, Mike Bellm, to my specs for best accuracy with the full range of bullet weights and types. He cleaned that up. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. Ive wanted one for years. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. It packs or stows easily and are very difficult to find lately. Mark Penrod is one. There's no doubt but that the .357 Magnum with heavy bullets will do it handily up close.The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine. . Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. This is well within the expansion range of the slightly larger XTP. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. If you want to. Lite recoil and is deadly. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. And 9mm , 45 ACP, 40 S&W , 380 Auto and all the rest. The finish is stainless steel with a black/gray laminate stock with checkered pistol grip and a rubber recoil pad. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. The .357 Rem. . I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. There'll be no market for it. Last time I went hunting. Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. My all-time favorite .357 rifle is still the IMI Timber Wolf pump. It came back looking like new. lets say it was well used and not maintained. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. CONDIT OUR STOCK NUMBER: 13212 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI.R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 24", OCTAGON FINISH: DARK BRAZILIAN HARDWOO ***HARD TO FIND TACTICAL-LEVER .357*** Citadel Levtac-92 lever-action rifle in .357 Magnum. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. $800 was a great price.. Also, after breaking it in, the Rossis action (which is the major criticism for this gun) was just as smooth as the Winchesters, Marlins and Henrys I have shot. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . (Photo: Winchester) L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? It's accuracy is outstanding. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. The buyer should be picky. Made in 1983, serial 600-02396 has a 10.5-inch barrel, blade front sight, adjustable rear sight, transfer bar and wood grips. I like all of them, they all have different personalities. Well, things are tough all over I guess. Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Notify Me When Available. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. The problem with rebarreling a Ruger No 1 or 3 is not the round, it it locating a gunsmith capable of dealing with a Ruger single shot action. Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on November 23, 2019: I spoke to a gunsmith about rebarreling a Ruger #3 falling block (single shot) to .357 Maximum and he was appalled, commenting "You'll never be able to resell it! This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. The .357 Remington Maximum was conceived primarily as an ultra-velocity, flat-trajectory silhouette cartridge. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. In a handgun .357 is the upper level of my comfort zone. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. This is because revolvers allow a certain amount of gas to escape as the bullet jumps from the cylinder to the forcing cone, meaning lost pressure. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber!
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